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Micheal Dietrich
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Posted - 2012.08.14 19:50:00 -
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This thread is horrible and you should feel bad for making it. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:17:00 -
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Pip Mayo wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:This thread is horrible and you should feel bad for making it. I already apologized. But it is not horrible, it was a noobie question.
You are trying to point out certain pvp elements and then claim there is no pve. Yes you should protect yourself when performing such elements but that in no way detracts from any pve content. If you want to run missions then run missions. The actual chances of being scanned down by the big bad ninja salvager are much lower than you think. If and when he does there is no rule actually stating that you have to go after him. What is one missions loot when you run a dozen a day?
There is nothing saying that you have to group up when mining, just be smart about what you fly and where. You remember those missions that were just mentioned above? Well many of them contain rocks. I'm willing to be that suiciders tend to stick to belt patrols far more rather than care enough to scan down lone ships in deadspace and grav sites.
Courier should be the easy one. Light cargo, fast align.
So tell me, what's the supposed handicap here for pve players? |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:36:00 -
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Pip Mayo wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:The actual chances of being scanned down by the big bad ninja salvager are much lower than you think. If and when he does there is no rule actually stating that you have to go after him. What is one missions loot when you run a dozen a day?
There is nothing saying that you have to group up when mining, just be smart about what you fly and where. You remember those missions that were just mentioned above? Well many of them contain rocks. I'm willing to be that suiciders tend to stick to belt patrols far more rather than care enough to scan down lone ships in deadspace and grav sites.
Courier should be the easy one. Light cargo, fast align.
So tell me, what's the supposed handicap here for pve players? That's not PvE. That's PvP. By the way, I did all you said. Killed by PvPer on first courier run with light cargo. Killed by PvPer on first group foray to get wealthier rocks. Killed by PvPer who wasn't there when we arrived but was sure there once we were engaged with NPC (PvE) pirates. I do not understand why someone who knows EVE will still insist EVE is also a PvE game.
Shooting scripted red crosses all day is not pvp.
And let me guess, you went into low sec and didn't heed the warning that pops up saying 'watch out, the boogeyman may be out there'. Did you check your D-scan? Did you keep an eye on your overview? Did you make safespots? Did you watch local?
I spent several years myself running missions and even now when I'm bored I hit up a scan site. It's not the horrible reality that you are attempting to make it out to be if you make at least a minimal effort to cover your own ass. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:56:00 -
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Pip Mayo wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Shooting scripted red crosses all day is not pvp.
No, it is a PvE element. But since when shooting scripted red crosses still led to my demise by another player, the game itself is all PvP.
Because you put yourself in a position to be affected by another player. You did it, not the game. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:12:00 -
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Pip Mayo wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Pip Mayo wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Shooting scripted red crosses all day is not pvp.
No, it is a PvE element. But since when shooting scripted red crosses still led to my demise by another player, the game itself is all PvP. Because you put yourself in a position to be affected by another player. You did it, not the game. Are you hearing yourself? By your own admission, I have to place myself in a position not to be affected by another player. PvP? I think so.
You appear to live in backward land. By not placing yourself in a position to be affected by another player you are avoiding pvp. Guy warps in, you warp out. No pvp. Guy steals from can, you don't fire. No pvp. Guy enters system, you cloak. No pvp. Target player and hit F1-F8. PvP.
It seems that what you are looking for is nanny state pve, meaning that you want the company to coddle and shield you. If so then yes, this game is not for you. This game bears more of a carry yourself attitude to it. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
634
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:22:00 -
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Pip Mayo wrote:Jim Era wrote:Pip don't argue. They will eat you alive in here. You are actively partaking in forum PvP.
You seem to continue so this may be an indicator that you like it?
Possibly try looking up the diplomacy side of EVE...the politics are massive here. I started the discourse. Only responsible to participate. I am burning out as I type, though. It should die out soon enough. I should have defined PvP vs PvE at the begining. I can see it is not as clear as I had thought it. Thanks PM
Because it appears that your definition is vaguely different than the communities. Btw, I couldn't help but notice that you never did say where all those evil pvp happenings actually happened. It was low sec wasn't it? You did disregard the little warning box didn't you? |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.08.14 21:40:00 -
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Whadafool wrote:this is like the best troll ive ever seen. look at all these mad people 
As much as I hate that word I'm afraid you are most likely correct in this matter. I bid ado and take my leave. |
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